For my students in the day game, I have a central message. During the day you should avoid looking like a creeper/stalker/mass murderer 100 times more than in a club where creepy asshole behavior is expected. If you are in a supermarket and you open game after game like in a club, you look like one of the aforementioned bastards. And security will chase you down or send you a letter like this guy on one of the PUA forums…
I am sending this to you because we have received reports of your borderline sexual misconduct involving students here at UCLA. Several women have notified us multiple times that your actions make them feel uncomfortable. Our members have noticed that you’re harassing freshmen in the Ackerman Student Union. We have records of your prior writing and want you to know that if further incidents occur, steps will be taken to ensure the safety of our students. These measures may include: deportation, imprisonment and/or mandatory psychological counseling.
We have the best interests of our students in mind and have a zero tolerance policy for bullying.
Here’s the fun. This letter was fake. Some female students got together and created this card to keep an eye on themselves. That’s how badly calibrated this poor fool is. She decided to keep dating trying to flirt the exact same way over and over again after receiving this letter. Hmmm missed the point.
Guy. The day game is different. In one place, you can open 1-3 games before being chased by security guards or reported by employees. This is not a night game where you have 20 games to open. Everyone can see and feel your vibe. YOU DON’T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A PICK UP ARTIST. Because if you do, you will be reported to the police. GAUGE YOUR SURROUNDINGS. Imagine you are a security guard at a local/supermarket/farmers market/Starbucks and they see you talk to a woman for 2 minutes and get a number. Then talk to another woman. And the next. In your brain you imagine you’re going to be a hero when you stop this guy from making a skin costume of the ladies in the basement of his dungeon after telling them, “Put the lotion on the skin.”
You’re 1-2 two starts per spot, and that’s it. The mall may be different because there are scattered locations. But CALIBRATE against looking like a stalker or creep.
At the 2010 PUA summit we took this to the extreme. Vince Kelvin had organized a day game workshop at the Hollywood and Highland mall and unleashed all the VIP and Platinum guys in the mall at once. The women who opened up more than once? Afraid. “ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE PICK-UP ARTISTS?” Vince had obviously done this in this mall before. Or these women had been opened before.
Student after student told me, “Yeah, I tried, but these Hollywood girls are so tough.” Of course they’ve been fooled to death by their ability to be open with guys with abilities when instructors and pua groups come out en masse like this! The 5 students who came with me for the day game boot camp had 3 starts (I limited them to avoid creeper mode) and 1 guy ended up on an instant date with a model, another guy used his new, “Can you say? Where’s Michael Jackson’s star? Well let’s go on a date, you take me there “Gambit and number closed and installed an extremely attractive woman, and the other 3 were successful in opening and hooking sets (but they were not aware of the transitions) . 1 hour was not enough to teach them. But the bottom line was that teaching the game of the day is more about teaching anti-creepiness and anti-pua behavior than it is about gambits. The idiots dress up as puas during the day and open millions of stages, attracting security guards and cameras.
That is why the dojo for social training is the club. You CAN talk to many women there and improve your skills. No matter what a guy says, day game makes learning how to converse with women take A LOT LONGER because you only get at most 3 games per spot before you get kicked out. In the club you could have up to 20 games and end up being the socially proven cool guy. Also, I couldn’t hear a word the students were saying at any given time. Being 5 feet away from a student’s conversation also creates creepy tension! He had to be 10 or 20 feet away to remain incognito.
Learn social arts in the club first. Then during the day learn too, but don’t think it’s the club. 1-3 games to come and then move on. And make friends with security or the police to make it less creepy.
Addendum: In the end, the RSH guy found out that the email was a scam and not from campus police. However, he does show that someone found his actions creepy of him (creepy enough to make a fake security email), and that multiple people on campus conspired to tell him to leave. The same thing. And there are some suckers on that forum WHO CHEER on him for getting kicked out of a place because he shows that he’s upping his game. Guffaw stay away from that advice 🙂
The RSD forum post can be viewed by clicking here to view their letter.